I'm not going to knock American bookstores.
They're big, they open early, close late, and serve coffee.
But I went to Barnes & Noble the other day to get Denis Johnson's Tree of Smoke, and the clerk had never heard of it. I'm like, "Uh, the one that just won the national BOOK award?" She said she could order it, and I said thanks, no, and wandered off through aisles of books on kittens and lasagne recipes to Borders, where I had better luck... until I tried to find something by Richard Wright.
Not in the Ws. So I found another clerk. Who explained that because Wright was Black, his books are kept separately in a section for books by other writers who were also Black.
When I asked why, he said, "That's just how we do it."
Is this some kind of marketing tool? Am I somehow missing something and wrong to be shocked that a man who spent his life fighting racism is now relegated to a separate shelf? What did I miss?
They're big, they open early, close late, and serve coffee.
But I went to Barnes & Noble the other day to get Denis Johnson's Tree of Smoke, and the clerk had never heard of it. I'm like, "Uh, the one that just won the national BOOK award?" She said she could order it, and I said thanks, no, and wandered off through aisles of books on kittens and lasagne recipes to Borders, where I had better luck... until I tried to find something by Richard Wright.
Not in the Ws. So I found another clerk. Who explained that because Wright was Black, his books are kept separately in a section for books by other writers who were also Black.
When I asked why, he said, "That's just how we do it."
Is this some kind of marketing tool? Am I somehow missing something and wrong to be shocked that a man who spent his life fighting racism is now relegated to a separate shelf? What did I miss?
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Thu, February 14, 2008 - 1:27 AMNOOO!! You are in a foreign Country and the way they do things are different form here in te USA!
I too fight the fight of eleminating any racism, gender definition thing,, even though I am straight and a white female,, I don't like this fight, but I do DO IT!! JM,,, what do you think of our possible Presidential Candidates right now?
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Fri, February 15, 2008 - 10:33 PMPolice! He doesn't have his fascist book card yet! Police! -
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Thu, February 21, 2008 - 9:32 PMI think it's a genre, Josh..."African American;" or "black writers."
They have Spanish books aside as well. People like to continuously read books in a genre they like.
It IS rather ironic, though. -
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Thu, February 21, 2008 - 9:58 PMGenres and languages are modes authors choose to write in.
If race is a genre, that would mean I could write an African American novel, and an African American could write a White novel.
But James Baldwin's Giovanni's Room, which is about a bunch of White people and has no African Americans, is still in the African American section. -
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Fri, February 22, 2008 - 1:57 AMBecause when a book store company sees the world through race, they can make people believe that literature is racially based and has nothing to do with actual, you know, independent literary value. Literary value independent from the value they can get out of pigeonholing writers for fun and profit. So goes the theory. -
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Fri, February 22, 2008 - 12:15 PMMarketers live in a different world. Unfortunately, they steer audiences into that same world of pigeonholing and bias, thereby creating a vicious (and profitable for some) cycle.
I had an eye-opening experience in 1985, when Out of Africa was released in theaters. Meryl Streep clearly had the largest role in that film. In comparison, Robert Redford's role was fairly small. Not only did Redford's name get top billing on the theater marquee where I saw the film, but Streep's name wasn't up there at all.
I was incensed and spoke to the theater manager, who couldn't be bothered, while a ticket taker admitted the marquee was pretty sexist by omitting Streep's name.
I worked in the Harvard Business School's News and Information Office then, and related the incident to my coworkers. One said, "I know that women are the main determiners of theater attendance."
My first reaction was that this meant my argument for Streep was supported -- i.e., women as role models.
My coworker added, "They want to see Redford, so they drag their husbands in with them to see the film."
I wrote in my journal then, "I wonder if it isn't a question of the tail wagging the dog. As in: does the marquee contribute to a condition whereby role models are bypassed for beaus regardless of the film's actual content?" In light of the film's emphasis, I found the marquee and the argument behind it profoundly disturbing.
With respect to how literature is misfiled and pigeonholed, I wish I knew how much ignorance and narrow-mindedness (not to mention low self-esteem) marketers have created, and how much they respond to. -
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Sat, March 1, 2008 - 10:03 PMSometimes people don't need you to carry a torch for them. Black writers benefit from the exposure given to them in association with other black authors. First; they were ignored; then, they were lost; now they are totally exposed with their own sections. I'm sure they like things this way; it's payback from when they weren't even carried at all.
As a world lit teacher and a lover of cultural writing; I'm extremely appreciative of this method of stocking books.
Oh and top billing isn't based on who has more lines; it's based on who has had better billing in the past. It's part of the rules of the actors guild. -
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Sun, March 2, 2008 - 3:36 PMBut, the point is, why should "literature" that has nothing to do with being Black be categorized in "The Black Writers" section? Further, isn't our goal to stop categorizing folks in this way? If you wrote a detective novel based on a character like Sam Spade, should I have to go looking for it in "Women's Literature"? No. It's absurd...and, frankly, obnoxious to think that authors are pigeonholed into some sort of role or expectation that some big conglomerated book-seller decides...and thereby loses exposure. For instance, would you go looking in "The Black Section" for gay literature? Or should you look in "Gay Literature"? Or, would I find Lesbian literature in the Women's section...written by some straight guy? Bah. -
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 7:35 AMI think it is intended as a way of making it easy for people to find who and what they are looking for.
As far as to who gets top billing, I always thought it had to do with the most popular and highest paid person in a movie.
Of course a small town is going to put up the name of the person they think will draw more people. Don't ya think?
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Mon, March 3, 2008 - 11:35 AMUnfortunately, it encourages folks to think of good writers as "Black Writers", "Women Writers", and "Gay Writers", etc. It should stop. -
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Re: American bookstore weirdness
Wed, March 5, 2008 - 12:38 AM... and thus the debate continues to rage through the annals of Literary Life...
But, like, what, are people who shop at Borders so dumb that they can't figure out how to find an author in alphabetically arranged stacks?
I guess bookstores are set up for browsing more than for people who know what they want... and I suppose if they use the system, it must work to sell more...
In which case, it would be nice to see all the gay authors (Gore Vidal, Walt Whitman, EM Forster... Shakespeare...) pulled off the shelves and put in Gay Literature. -
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Fri, March 7, 2008 - 8:30 PMHere, here ...I agree. Put all the Gay Writers in a group to themselves....just think of the great company you would enjoy JM..
Hey, maybe book stores should use the Dewey Decimal system. That would put a stop to such foolishness.
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Thu, April 3, 2008 - 9:21 AMOh fooey, methinks this is not even a real issue for you. I think you want people to debate about race and gender. This is silly. You ask why would writing that has nothing to do with being black be in the black writer's section. You answered your own question...it's not the "everything having to do with black people, section," it's WRITERS who are African American. That's important culturally because of the point of view they might have. And don't even tell me they don't have a gay and lesbian section because I've never NOT seen one in a bookstore. Maybe you should move to California. You could stay at my house, but there are only two bedrooms, so you'd have to sleep in mine.
<<Unfortunately, it encourages folks to think of good writers as "Black Writers", "Women Writers", and "Gay Writers", etc. It should stop.
No. What Are you thinking. Just...no. It never promises to be the BEST writers, just culturally the same.
Now both of you shush and go read what I posted on SitnSpin.
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Re: American bookstore weirdness
Wed, March 5, 2008 - 7:58 PMMeh. This stack, that stack, wherever did Dewey go anyway? Behind isle 69, down and to the left and maybe, just maybe, you will see something you were not expecting to see and buy the sucker (Sucker!). Whatever sells man, whatever.
The kid says to me the other day about Charles Bronson, “Hey wasn’t he the guy that killed all those people out in California in the sixties?
Hum, well yeah, sort of…
We call it ‘a gap’. What the hell were you doing in a Borders anyway? Bad, bad JM (pummels puppy nose with newspaper and calls crap, crap)!
My apologies up front for this:
Used bookstores are as rare as hookers are these days; you’ll not find 'em on every corner, but when you do they're loose, cheap, and fun to dig through. -
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Wed, March 5, 2008 - 9:56 PMBelieve me, I took home a library big enough to rub the wheels of my suitcase raw before I even got to the plane, thanks to the good used-bookstore owners of Chapel Hill, Asheville and Manhattan. -
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Fri, March 7, 2008 - 8:32 PMI buy a lot of books from used book places but it breaks my heart to see the way they are treated. I love books.
About time you found some books to read JM. Sure will save me a couple of quarters.
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